@ThePushingPawn said in #24:
> I'm going to make some points that might be controversial here (just a disclaimer)
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> It's quite hypocritical to censor the Russian flag. Ukraine supporters might say that Russia is suppressing Ukraine's identity but aren't you doing the same thing when censoring the flag of Russia?
Oh yes, not havng a flag on liches is totally as suppressing as having missile rain down over residential areas all over the country. You're so right, it's totally the same thing.
> I would also like to point out the heavy hand the U.S has had in spreading propaganda and demonizing Russia. Most medias decide to focus on the atrocities committed by Russians (I'm not denying the terrible and unforgivable things some of them have done) and not by the Ukrainians. Where humans go problems and corruption inevitably follow. The winner gets to write history.
What do you mean? Many people just watch straight from Ukraine what is happening through social media.
I got a lot of my info from just talking to people in Ukraine over the internet.
And there's millions of Ukrainians in Europe now.
Maybe in USA it's like a media thing, but in Europe it's a reality thing.
> It is clear that the US and many of the other pro-Ukrainian countries are supporting Ukraine as a way of dealing a blow to China, one of the US' clear rivals. Russia and China have been long-standing allies (although Russia collapsed after transitioning from the USSR to Russia, where Russia turned to the US' political system), and the US cannot bear to see themselves not being the big boy on the block. Does the US really care about Ukraine?
>If so, why then did the US not help Ukraine before the war?
They did. Many countries have been helping Ukraine since 2014, so for 8 years. Including USA that did a lot.
That's the reason Ukraine was able to not be overrun. Becaus NATO-countries have helped them be stronger so they can defend themselves.
> Please note that I am not in any way pro-Putin nor am I agreeing with the war in Ukraine. I am just trying to show some reason amongst the brainwashed people who mindlessly take what the biased media tells them.
You're just repeating Putin's propaganda faithfully without in any way being pro-Putin lol.